October 26, 2004

shuffle to the CEN-TER...

Andrea Harris just dealt with Jeff Jarvis's latest in a much wittier way than I ever could:

I once remarked that reading Jeff Jarvis’s blog is like staring at a train wreck full of naked old people: appalling, but you just keep peeking between your fingers...
Read her piece first. Then, if you want more details, here's my take:


Here's how Bush could have had a landslide
He's gonna.
: Or to put it another way: Here's how Bush could have had my vote -- and if he'd managed to get the vote of a lifelong Democrat, a Bill Clinton Democrat at that, then he could have gotten millions more unexpected votes and he would have run away with this election. But he's not. Why? Well, he coulda, shoulda....
Ooooh. Little Miss hard-to-get.
1. He should have called Iraq a one-year war (at least), not a one-week war.
"Our boys will be home by St Patrick's Day!" I remember Bush pledging that.
...He should have known that only when we had installed democracy in Iraq could we declare victory.
Bush didn't declare victory. This probably refers to that "Mission Accomplished" sign...but a mission is not a war. Oooops, I forgot. Mr Jarvis is in the "press." They don't know icky military things like that, even after bloggers tell them repeatedly. Besides, that story was too good to check.
He should have put in sufficient resources to do that while better securing the lives of Iraqis and our soldiers.
So eeeeasy, these wars. Clinton would have made it look simple. I bet Jarvis also subscribes to the criticism that we put too many resources into Iraq; that our military is "overstretched," a thin burned-out husk...
He should have managed our expectations and should not have declared victory.
Anybody can fight battles and kill terrorists. But a WORTHY war-leader concentrates on "managing expectations." You're right, Jarvis. Don't ever vote for someone who doesn't "manage expectations" well.

I wonder if he even knows the war is REAL? That it actually exists outside of what the press reports and the candidates debate? I once saw a cartoon, with this dad fixing a flat tire in the rain...and he's saying to his children inside the car, "This is real life! We CAN'T change the channel!"
...I supported getting rid of Saddam and bringing democracy to Iraq and the Middle East (in what was once known as the Tom Friedman doctrine). But like many others who supported this move, I'm disappointed, dismayed, distraught, distressed -- pick your dis -- at the administration's inability to win the peace.
You and Friedman are jerks-of-a-feather. "Are we there yet?" 18 months and we haven't "won the peace?" I bet they don't even stick with their wives for 18 months. Well, we ARE winning the peace. The slow hard way, even if the butterflies can't stick it.

Jarvis's other reason for not voting Bush is domestic:

2. He should have served the center.

Hey, if Bush can become an interventionist and nation-builder, it's not so damned far-fetched that he could have become a centrist, or at least played one on TV.
Ugly news, Jeff. Bush IS the center. The measures he advocates routinely poll 60 or 70%. America is a conservative country with a conservative President. And every election, a few million more Americans have that little lightbulb go on above their heads.
After his unvictory in the last election, he should have gone to the center in an effort to really win the next time.
So if it was an "unvictory," how'd he manage to pass 3 big tax cuts, Fast Track, NCLB, HSA's, Missile Defense? Plus use his executive authority to jettison Kyoto and ABM, limit Stem-Cell research, and implement Faith-Based Iniatives? You better pray you never see Bush after a "victory."
And after 9/11, he should have owned the center to make himself the president of all America in this time of need.
"Why can't he just go to the CEN-TER, where we liberal Democracts dwell at the CEN-TER of CENTRIST politics, just as it has always been, world without end, Amen."? I bet Jarvis still has a Che t-shirt tucked-away at the back of his underwear drawer. He doesn't know he's old gray Castro, stumblin' again.
He could have appointed someone respected instead of John Ashcroft.
Hate to break this, but there's a ton of us who respect John Ashcroft very much. But hey, we NEED the Jarvis vote--let's go back to Janet Reno.
And a little less talk about talking with God would have helped, too.
Oooooh. NOW we get to the nub. But Jeff, if YOU are the CEN-TER, why is former alter-boy saying that his "faith" will guide him when he gets to the White House? I mean, we both know he's lying, but WHY does he have to say that?

Could it be he's "moving to the center?"

Posted by John Weidner at October 26, 2004 09:38 AM | TrackBack
Comments

Of course...Jeff Jarvis's opinion on the war not squaring with yours obviously makes him a jerk doesnt it?
At least you actually went to the trouble of trying to fisk him which is a lot more than Andrea harris ever did- a lot of sarcastic comments does not an article make.

Posted by: minzo at October 26, 2004 11:21 AM

No, there are lots of people who oppose the war I wouldn't call jerks--because they oppose out of priniciple. Jarvis and Friedman were FOR the Iraq Campaign, until it became tough and painful. Then they move to the sidelines and sneer. Jerks.

And not because they disagree with ME, but because they are undercutting THEIR COUNTRY in time of war. They are just like those Democrat Senators who VOTED for the campaign, and now act like it has nothing to do with them...that it's Bushes War, not America's War. Despicable.

Andrea's post conveyed exactly the same thing: "no icky hurty ows and it’s gotten so boring now!" Democrats in a nutshell.

Posted by: John Weidner at October 26, 2004 11:53 AM

Maybe so, John, but I've found Jeff Jarvis to be basically a reasonable fellow, and your comments are, well, less than tactful. Correct, possibly, but rather harshly put.

Posted by: Hale Adams at October 26, 2004 05:07 PM

You're probably right, Hale. I'm feeling frachity and irritable. Election week, I guess. But man, I'm sure getting fed up with sunshine soldiers and summer patriots....

Posted by: John Weidner at October 26, 2004 06:00 PM

Minzo, a nice cup of warm chamomile tea will take those bad feelings away.

Hale: Jarvis hasn't been reasonable for some time now. I believe it all started when Howard Stern's latest lookatme brouhaha with the FCC started. Jarvis is one of Stern's sycophants; even the thought (unrealistic in the extreme as I tried in vain to point out to Jarvis) that Stern would be taken off the air seemed to unhinge Jarvis' mind. After that even the slightest attempt of some hapless official somewhere to keep society from totally going off the rails into an all-ages pornfest was interpreted by Jarvis as the Dark Night of Big Brother/the Inquisition descending upon America.

Every once in a while he'd post something sane, usually to do with his own reaction to the events of September 11th, and he was real coy about his reasons for voting for Kerry; but now he's come out as a total idiot. I was ready to simply dismiss him as someone who had been unable to force himself to vote for a Republican so he had convinced himself that even if Kerry was inept, it would all still work somehow. But darn it if he didn't actually formulate a position. Too bad it came from the land of Honna-lee.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at October 26, 2004 06:46 PM

I think I'm particularly annoyed by Jarvis just because I have him pigeonholled as a sensible guy. Liberal, but reasonable. So I kind of feel like I've been duped when he comes out with such silly stuff.

And upon re-reading, it still seems silly. "Managing expectations." Egad.

Posted by: John Weidner at October 27, 2004 09:48 AM

Bingo! "Duped" is the word. Jarvis has been slowly crawling back to the mediots, and this is the final jump before the crevasse opens up too wide. I'll likely keep reading him, but now through the prism of just another media dude.

Posted by: Scott Chaffin at October 27, 2004 10:40 AM

THANK YOU!! For giving what I think is a well-deserved slap to JJ. It was one of the first blogs I started reading when I first became aware of them, but after a while it just got tiresome ("more boobies on teevee!!").

Posted by: mark-o at October 28, 2004 12:16 PM
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