December 16, 2008

We brought peace to the planet, and nobody noticed...

Our friend in India, Bisaal, put a comment at this post. I'm taking the great liberty of expanding my answer into a post, since I don't have any other inspiration this morning.

Bisasl wrote:

The Vietnam intervention didnt work out very well.
USA still has a lot of Army stationed in North Korea.
And now you have Iraq and Afghanistan as well.
The question is what does US wants to achieve in Iraq and Afghanistan. I am yet to see an "Exit strategy".
Perhaps Afghanistan is a ruse for Pakistan in some way and Iraq WAS a danger (still it was a great pity that US had to undertake such trouble to get rid of an unpopular tyrant).

Bisaal, take a look at this photo.

See North Korea shrouded in inspissated gloom? And South Korea and Japan blazing with light? We (and the Brits) made that possible. Peace, prosperity and democracy. We still have a couple of brigades stationed in SK, but so what? They ensure that neither NK nor China is going to even think of military aggression on the Korean Peninsula, which is the natural path towards Japan. (And our air elements there help ensure that China will never invade Taiwan, another place that shines at night thanks to us.) We are the pacifists, 'cause we keep the peace.

Vietnam was badly bungled, but we ended up with a South Vietnam that was defending itself successfully against North Vietnamese attacks---until the vile traitor Democrats who controlled Congress after the Watergate scandal suddenly killed our military aid to them, and condemned them to Communist tyranny. If that hadn't happened satellite photos of the region would probably show contrasts similar to Korea's.

What do we want to achieve in Iraq? Much the same. (And we are already a long way towards that goal--we are no longer doing much real fighting there.)

Afghanistan may be hopeless as a possible democratic state, but that's the region where global jihad is centered, and I suspect we are just whacking at the hornet's nest, in hopes of stirring up open trouble we can solve. (Reminds me of a joke I found hilarious when I was six years old: "How do you cure a cold? You stand in the rain until you get pneumonia, because we have a cure for that."

The most important part of what we and our allies have achieved is that the places we have conquered aren't dangers to the world anymore. But the crazy thing is, we did it so well that nobody can even see it! You don't see it! Possible aggression by Germany or Japan or Italy used to be a HUGE worry, not to mention a huge reality. That's GONE! So far gone you don't even notice it.

We brought peace to most of the planet, and now everyone just takes it for granted, and thinks peace is the normal state of mankind! We talk about wars now, but there aren't any wars--not real ones. In September 1918 America committed 1,300,000 troops to the Meuse-Argonne Offensive. We suffered about 117,000 casualties, including 48,909 dead. Wars like that are extinct; the last one was the Iraq-Iran War in the 1980's. That was the last time nation fought nation in any serious way. (This is reason #67 why "liberals" discourage the study of history.)

What we call "wars" now are always internal slaughters and genocides within failed states. (This includes our invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan; in both cases the governments in power melted away like mist, and we were almost immediately faced with the job of creating democratic states.)

Of course our fake-pacifists hate America! Our "exit strategy" is victory--followed by peace.

* Update: Oh, and Bisaal.... what we do is an Anglosphere thing. Britain did lots of peace-keeping in the 19th Century. Our main allies in all the fights of the 20th Century have been Britain, Canada, and Australia. So guess who that progression is pointing to! Who's next?

Posted by John Weidner at December 16, 2008 07:32 AM
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US had great victories in past but that was then.
Now US is not looking forward to victory. It doesnt not even define what a Victory would be.

It could be so that US is actively engaged in keeping nukes out of Islamic hands and thats the real point of Iraq and Afghan campaigns

Posted by: Bisaal at December 17, 2008 08:33 PM

Looking at the management of current economic crisis, I have the impression that for the current American president, short-term political expediency overrules all.

Posted by: Bisaal at December 18, 2008 01:41 AM

"It doesnt not even define what a Victory would be" That's not our fault. If you are fighting an elusive guerilla enemy who vanishes when pressed, and often assumes new names and disguises, then it will always be hard to be sure he's beaten.

But in the Information Age, everything tends to become like that. The best militaries are moving towards giving initiative and decision-making power to ever-smaller units. And we now have "virtual companies" that are just a few people with an idea, who sub-contract out production, warehousing, delivery, advertising, sales, etc to other companies, often in far parts of the globe.

This is something new we are fighting, not a war in any traditional definition. "Victory" may consist in having anti-terrorist capability becoming also radically de-centralized, so every attack triggers innovative responses by people on the spot.


Posted by: John Weidner at December 18, 2008 07:40 AM

Bisaal,

Victory is defined as Peace with Freedom...Like most of Iraq these days...

Peace without Freedom is the definition of Slavery.

Oh, and that should include freedom of religion...I wonder what religion you claim, Bisaal?

Posted by: dour in colorado at December 19, 2008 12:42 PM

Doug, I know Bisaal slightly, and he's not a guy who would infringe anyone's freedom of religion. In fact he's near the hot zones, not far from Jihadistan, & might worry about his own freedoms...

Posted by: John Weidner at December 19, 2008 01:17 PM
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