February 17, 2008
Moderate Pakistan?
I can't say how much weight one should put on this article, Islam Needs Democracy, by Waleed Ziad, but it's damned interesting. I'd keep it in mind. As a general rule, I'd opine that whenever you hear that some country or group or movement is unified, monolithic (and supposedly unbeatable by us disorganized folks) you should be very skeptical. (Thanks to Orrin Judd)
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan: While it's good news that secular moderates are expected to dominate Pakistan's parliamentary elections on Monday, nobody here thinks the voting will spell the end of militant extremism.Posted by John Weidner at February 17, 2008 05:30 PM
Democratic leaders have a poor track record in battling militants and offer no convincing remedies. Pakistan's military will continue to manage the war against the Taliban and its Qaeda allies, while President Pervez Musharraf will remain America's primary partner.
The only long-term solution may lie in the hands of an overlooked natural ally in the war on terrorism: the Pakistani people.
This may come as a surprise to Americans, but the Wahhabist religion professed by the militants is more foreign to most Pakistanis than Karachi's 21 KFCs. This is true even of the tribal North-West Frontier Province.
Last month I was in the village of Pakpattan observing the commemoration of the death of a Muslim Sufi saint from the Punjab - a feast of dance, poetry, music and prayer attended by more than a million people. Religious life in Pakistan has traditionally been synonymous with the gentle spirituality of Sufi mysticism, the traditional pluralistic core of Islam.
Even in remote rural areas, spiritual life centers not on doctrinaire seminaries but Sufi shrines; recreation revolves around ostentatious wedding parties and Hollywood, Bollywood and the latter's Urdu counterpart, Lollywood.
So when the Taliban bomb shrines and hair salons, or ban videos and music, it doesn't go down well. A resident of the Swat region, the site of many recent Taliban incursions, proudly told me last month that scores of citizens in his village had banded together to drive out encroaching militants. Similarly, in the tribal areas, many local village councils, called jirgas, have summoned the Pakistani Army or conducted independent operations against extremists.
Virtually all effective negotiations between the army and militants have involved local councils; in 2006, a jirga in the town of Bara expelled two rival clerics who used their town as a battleground.
The many militant outfits in the frontier regions are far from a unified popular movement. Rather, they are best characterized as ethnic or sectarian gangs, regularly changing names and loyalties.....
It is right time for Americans to learn the history of Pakistan. The name itself means Pure (or Holy) Land ie land purified of infidels- one million killed by Pakistan Military in 1947 in West Punjab
(plus 6.7 million expelled) and another million killed (again) by Pakistan Military in East Bengal in 1971.
The class killed off and expelled in 1947 included
the Hindu trading and shopkeeping class. Their departure left Pakistan with little native enterprise (that had to be filled by State).
in 1947 West Punjab was as rich as East Punjab, now East Punjab is richer by a factor of 3.
The campign to create Pakistan was headed by Jinnah who was bin Laden cum Hitler. Big Punjabi cities of this time, like Lahore and Amritsar were like Baghdad of Bush's period. Only instead of suicide bomber, the infidels faced anomonous knifer and arsonist.
The certain fact is Pakistan is not a normal nation or country but a Jihadist Entity. It was created to wage Jihad. It actively seeks Jihad
not only in Kashmir but in all parts of India, Britain, USA, and elsewhere. Democracy has nothing to do with it and is meaningless for infidels.
The militant outfits are not foreign to Paksitani situation but infact quite native. They were also essential to the formation of Paksitan and were instrumental in killing of infidels in the campign begining July 1946. There were waves of attacking begining from the districts the infidel percentage was least in ascending order.
Infact the salient fact is that before partition in Aug 47, one million of Hindus and Sikhs from Muslim-majority districts had migrated/expelled. While there was no corresponding migration of Muslims from East Punjab.
The militant outfits are now claiming their due.
Posted by: Bisaal at February 18, 2008 10:45 PMThe campign to create Pakistan was headed by Jinnah who was bin Laden cum Hitler.
Holy crap - do you mean that? Jinnah = Hitler? I've NEVER heard anyone assert something that extreme...I don't know much Indian history, but could flesh that out a bit? I mean, I know the guy fought for Muslims, and sent the army into Kashmir, but friggin' Hitler? Bin Laden?
Fought for Muslims?. No, he left Muslims of East Punjab to the mercy of Hindu mobs who then slaughtered half a million of them.
He didnt fight for Muslims who are living more of less OK in India even now.
He fought for power and a misguided racist theory
