August 27, 2006
Just expressing their opinion...
Members of Utah's Jewish community are alarmed by a proposed demonstration that will call for "Death to Israel."
A man - whose name wasn't available Thursday - has applied for a free-speech permit from Salt Lake City to demonstrate on sidewalks near City Hall on Wednesday. The city is reviewing the application.
City officials cannot constitutionally deny it based on the content of the message...
...But the police department has given its OK to the protest. Spokesman Joe Cyr said the group sponsoring the rally—listed as Center to Prevent Corporate Media Lying—has held demonstrations before. On average, about nine people show, he said. The permit application anticipates between nine and about 130 demonstrators.
"It's not like they're threatening to kill people," Cyr said. "They're just [expressing] their opinion."...
Of course they're not threatening to kill people. Why, saying Death to Israel" is pretty much polite meaningless chit-chat in left-leaning circles these days. Sorta like saying "Hey, how's it going?" "Cool man. Death to Israel!"
Posted by John Weidner at August 27, 2006 04:26 PMWell..
look: they're not actually threatening to commit murder. They _are_ voicing an opinion on the merits of the existence of Israel. Given that they cannot actually carry out a plan (which doesn't exist) to effect this policy preference without a lot more help... I'm not worried...
Does it need to be said that I find this policy preference to be odious? You probably think it does...
Posted by: Andrew Cory at August 27, 2006 08:50 PM"Policy preference?" Death to Israel is a policy preference? I'm sure glad your gang won't be runnng things in my lifetime.
Suppose I held a "Death to Harlem" protest. Hey, nothin' wrong with that, is there? It's just a policy position, I'm just debating the merits of the existence of a certain neighborhood. Not like I'm threatning or anything.
Posted by: John Weidner at August 27, 2006 09:28 PMI get it. I think what's happened, Andrew, is that you've missed picking up on some subtle social cues. Etiquette tip: When you're in public, it's called "genocide." In private, among your Democrat pals, it's a "policy preference."
Posted by: John Weidner at August 27, 2006 09:46 PMDeath to the Dems!
What? It's just a "policy preference." Are you questioning my native customs? Racist!
Posted by: Andrea Harris at August 27, 2006 10:53 PMActually, I think this is a remarkably illustrative example...when the KKK wants to march, they're generally permitted to under the First Amendment. But the entire community rallies in protest, rejecting the foul offal spewed by the miserable KKK.
God love them for it - they see evil writhing on their streets, and their only thought is to combat it.
Why, sweet Lord, why on earth is that not the same reaction they have to "Death to Israel" folks? Is it because they agree? Is it because they have nothing to fear from the toothless KKK, but the risk of a fatwa runs a tad too deep? Is it because the messier things get on Bush's watch, the worse he looks?
Or is there some humane reason for desiring the destruction of Israel that I just don't see? Some good reason for killing/forcing the emigration of a few million Jews (again)?
Posted by: Ethan Hahn at August 28, 2006 05:34 AMI would imagine because most people don't find "Death to Israel" as scary as white supremacists.
Because, after all, Israel is a long way away.
Posted by: B. Durbin at August 28, 2006 07:52 AMJohn, I think you're being a bit harsh on Andrew.
Andrew, if John "probably think[s] it does"-- "it" being the necessity of being told that you find "Death to Israel" an odious notion-- I'm willing to bet it's because too many of your fellow Democrats make excuses for the "Death to Israel" crowd, and people of good will (such as yourself) are reluctant to criticize those fellow Democrats for their excuse-making out of a misplaced sense of loyalty.
Andrew, it's great to be loyal. It's just that too much of today's Democratic Party isn't worthy of the loyalty of middle-of-the-road people like yourself. And I think it drives John up the wall because you're too blind to see that.
Posted by: Hale Adams at August 28, 2006 07:38 PMYes, wishing for a Genocide that you're unable to carry out is a "policy preference". Odious, yes. But a policy preference nonetheless. Were they actively meeting to create detailed plans to wage war against Israel... that'd be a different issue...
Hell! the "Death to Israel" plan might be nothing more than buying Israeli land hand handing it over to the Palestinians-- or Martians. Granted, that's kind of far-fetched...
Posted by: Andrew Cory at August 28, 2006 09:47 PM
