July 17, 2005
"Here, let me stick this knife in you"
Trey Jackson quotes John Podesta on Meet the Press, talking about the Plame affair:
Podesta: ....At the end of the day this isn't about Pres. Clinton, this is about the Bush WH, this is about the war in Iraq. This is about the fact that whether it's Dick Clarke or Joe Wilson or Gnl. Shinsheki or Max Cleland or Joe Wilson, the motus operandi is if you criticize this WH, if you suggest there is another point of view, you're attacked. You're smeared...
What a weasely cowardly thing to say. No, it was not about the "Bush WH," or about the war in Iraq. It was about very specific accusations that a White House official had committed a crime. And now that that line of attack is falling apart, now that the charges look more and more phony, do they apologize? Say they were wrong? NO, suddenly now it's "about the Bush White House." What the hell does that mean? Who knows?
But suppose I accuse you of a crime. Suppose I try to put you in jail, and gloat over visions of seeing you marched off in chains. And then when I don't have any evidence to back the accusation up, I say it's "really" about your rotten personality. Is that slimy, or what?
And suppose, when you point out that I'm making a false accusation, and refute me with logic and facts, I then whine and snivel that you're always "attacking" people, and "smearing" them just because they have "another point of view."
"Another point of view!" What amazing effrontery. "Here, let me stick this knife in you. Just my little point of view, you know. Just "suggesting" it."
What cowardly worms. Wormtongues. To try to nail someone on a charge amounting to treason [Google Rove+treason, see how many hits you get!] and then when somebody fights back with facts, to blubber that they are suppressing "other points of view." Yecccch. He forgot to add "censorship," "wrapping themselves in the flag," and "suppressing dissent."
Posted by John Weidner at July 17, 2005 06:45 PM"falling apart"???!?!?!
I'm sorry, but I thought though you were conservative, you at least existed in the plane of reality, not wingnuttery, but now I'm having second thoughts!
Did you even catch today's news shows? See AP's headline item today? That now that Cooper has gone public with what he testified to the Grand Jury, we know that Rove leaked TO HIM.
GOP have been claiming most of the week it was the press who first brought it up, but that he only confirmed it. But as Russert today reminded Ken Mehlman (I was actually starting to feel sorry for Mehlman today, he looked so pathetic and lost, like a little kid who knows no one believes anything he says anymore, but he can't drop the lie), Rove signed and was briefed on an SF-312 that he could ONLY ever confirm information that MIGHT be classifed by FIRST confirming from the classifying authority that the information is in fact unclassified or downgraded. Rove's own attorney has stated he didn't do this!
Plus, as at least three different news shows repeated over and over, the Bush WH via Bush and McClellan for two years told us with absolute certainty that Rove, Libby, Abrams and others had been asked directly, and had clearly stated they had NOTHING to do with passing Plame's identity to the press. But we know (their own lawyers have confirmed it) that at least Libby and Rove DID pass something along. Even if you give them EVERY benefit of the doubt that they didn't initiate the leak, that they really heard it first from a reporter, and they made an honest mistake in confirming it, it still leaves the fact (FACT) that they either lied to McClellan and Bush, or Bush and McClellan lied to the press! You can't have it any other way (except apparently in wingnutteryland, wherein a WH Press Secretary can say "I asked them and they assured me they had absolutely nothing to do with it, knew nothing about it until they read Novak's piece" for two years, then Rove's lawyer can say "Yes, he confirmed it for a reporter 3 days before Novak's piece", and yet you still claim no one lied?!@?!?!?!)...
By the way, one major problem with all the WH spinning is Novak...while we don't know his testimony to the US Attorney, we do know that he said back in 2003 that he didn't seek out the story, that two sources in the WH approached him and gave it to him...So was he lying then? Or is Rove lying now?
Did you catch Face the Nation? On which Bob Schieffer, who has always soft-pedaled the Bush WH news items (and bragged about being personal friends with Dubya), quizzed Roy Blunt? Read Blunt's answers...not once does he actually defend or agree with anything about Rove! And where were the MIA? You know, Video Doc Frist? DeLay? Hastert? McCain? Brownback? George Allen? All in hiding, no where to be found!
Clear impression today was the GOP Congress doesn't trust Rove, can easily believe he did what hes accused of doing, and have no intention of going down with him! They are all putting their distance between themselves, Rove and Bush...of course, Bush's "Do you trust the President" numbers (41% yes - down 9 points in 6 months, 45% no - up 10 points in 6 months) aren't encouraging, especially since those numbers came out BEFORE the Rove shitstorm!
Posted by: Zoomie at July 17, 2005 09:48 PMHey Zoomie, your bong is calling -- answer it.
(Full disclosure: I saw that remark in another blog's comments and stole it, because come on, it's perfect.)
Posted by: Andrea Harris at July 18, 2005 03:34 PM
