October 23, 2004
Correct, sort of...
James Webb has a piece in OpinionJournal about the "Scots-Irish," one of the important groups of settlers that formed America, and their importance in American politics. But his tone and his facts seem a bit off, like someone looking down on his subject from a height.
The Scots-Irish are derived from a mass migration from Northern Ireland in the 1700s, when the Calvinist "Ulster Scots" decided they'd had enough of fighting Anglican England's battles against Irish Catholics.Actually, the "Scotch-Irish," their common name in our history, are better described as North British borderers. Only a minority of them came from Ulster. The book to read is David Hackett Fischer's splendid Albion's Seed. And the bit about they'd had enough of fighting Anglican England's battles sounds like an attempt to impose the stupid Vietnam template (which really doesn't even fit the Vietnam War) on the Ulster protestants...who only migrated to America if they were younger sons who had no land. Otherwise they were as willing to fight Catholics as their American cousins were to fight Indians.
Note comments section--Scott Chaffin thinks I may be wrong about Webb...
Webb also seems kind of tone-deaf when writing about George W Bush:
...Speaking in a quasirural dialect that his critics dismiss as affected, W. is telling his core voting groups that he is one of them. No matter that he is the product of many generations of wealth; that his grandfather was a New England senator; that his father moved the family's wealth South just like the hated Carpetbaggers after the Civil War; that he himself went North to Andover and Yale and Harvard when it came time for serious grooming. And as with the persona, so also with the key issues. The Bush campaign proceeds outward from a familiar mantra: strong leadership, success in war, neighbor helping neighbor, family values, and belief in God. Contrary to many analyses, these issues reach much farther than the oft-discussed Christian right. The president will not win re-election without carrying the votes of the Scots-Irish, along with those others who make up the "Jacksonian" political culture that has migrated toward the values of this ethnic group....Webb, I suspect, picked up his "facts" from other Democrats in his literary circle. So. let's dissect this paragraph:
Speaking in a quasirural dialect that his critics dismiss as affected,
I love that "critics dismiss" formula. What's your opinion, Mr Webb? In fact, Bush talks like most people from his part of Texas.
W. is telling his core voting groups that he is one of them.
If you actually asked those core groups, they would tell you this is patently true.
No matter that he is the product of many generations of wealth; that his grandfather was a New England senator;
This is misleading. The Bushes have never had Rockefeller-type wealth, they've all needed to work. Prescott's father earned his money in Ohio. Prescott was successful on New York's Wall Street and was in middle-age before he entered politics.
that his father moved the family's wealth South just like the hated Carpetbaggers after the Civil War;
This is a deceptious sneer. Each generation of Bushes seems to move somewhere else. And George HW Bush moved to Odessa Texas to make money, not spend it. He didn't move the "family," or its wealth, just himself and his young bride...and not very much money. And Odessa (and its suburb Midland) was an oil-patch full of fortune hunters from all over the country. The "Carpetbagger" sneer is totally inapplicable.
that he himself went North to Andover and Yale and Harvard when it came time for serious grooming.
I went to college in Berkeley. Did that make me a long-haired peacenik? No, because you are where you grow up. Bush went off to school in New England, but he remained a Texan (including carrying a paper cup to class at Harvard to spit tobacco juice into) and always went back to Texas as soon a possible. And married a girl from...Midland.
And as with the persona, so also with the key issues. The Bush campaign proceeds outward from a familiar mantra: strong leadership, success in war, neighbor helping neighbor, family values, and belief in God. Contrary to many analyses, these issues reach much farther than the oft-discussed Christian right. The president will not win re-election without carrying the votes of the Scots-Irish, along with those others who make up the "Jacksonian" political culture that has migrated toward the values of this ethnic group
Correct, sort of. But tone-deaf. The Scotch-Irish culture IS the Jacksonian culture, and other American groups have migrated towards it.
Webb uses terms like "familiar mantra" as if he assumes that political campaigns normally fake common American values out of cynical calculation. He must be a Democrat. They love to imagine that Bush is a New England elitist just faking his Red-State values, because that is exactly what Kerry is doing right now--and looking like an elitist fool.
I think you might be mis-reading Webb. I read that paragraph as an acknowledgment of all the straw men built up around and about Bush, rather than what Webb truly believes. He does stray off into random poli-think towards the end, but on the whole I don't think it's overtly critical of Bush and his base and the Scots-Irish-or-whatever-you-want-to-call usn's.
Now, I'm right in the middle of his book, "Born Fighting" so I have a small inkling of where he's coming from. And I'll say that without that inkling, it would be dead-easy to read this as critical and elitist. Webb is writing this column as if everybody who reads it will know of his work. Dumb idea, and the editors should have scotched (I crack myself up) it.
So I guess I've gotta go get Albion's Seed now, huh? Great -- another one to add to my reading table. Yeesh.
Posted by: Scott Chaffin at October 24, 2004 08:25 AMI'll add a note...I may well be wrong about Webb. But I remember how he excoriated the Administration for not having the MOST IMPORTANT THING--a plan to get OUT of Iraq. That kind of thinking revolts me...(unless we "get out" via Tehran.)
Albion's Seed is a massive tome, but super if you like tracing things back through the centuries.
As a small example, the different regions of England have different cooking styles, with East Anglia having a preference for baking things. Which is reflected in the cuisine of New England, whence cometh our traditional Thanksgiving chow...which is why every Thanksgiving we wish we had three ovens...
Posted by: John Weidner at October 24, 2004 02:50 PMMassive, schmassive. What else am I gonna do with all my free time? :-)
I missed the excoriation, so I'll take your word for it. That's a stupid thing to say, especially if you're a military historian of sorts. The only "plan" I personally would be comfortable with is "when the job is done."
- A Two-Oven Man, with four timers and lots of oven mitts
Posted by: Scott Chaffin at October 24, 2004 03:53 PM"Most seriously, Bush has yet to explain the exact circumstances under which American military forces will be withdrawn from Iraq."
Article here
To be fair, it also criticizes Kerry. But I still found it quite loathsome. For instance, it has the canard about Republicans "attacking the patriotism" of anyone who disagrees with them. With, as always, no examples, because there are none.
Posted by: John Weidner at October 24, 2004 04:45 PMThat isn't a very well thought-out article. I'll be reading his book with a squinty eye now. Nothing I've read so far would lead me to believe that the man thinks like that, nor how he might have come to hold that opinion.
Posted by: Scott Chaffin at October 25, 2004 06:45 AM
